
bobzibub
06-11 04:04 PM
I keep reading we should fight for out rights and all. I am just curious
where does it say if on is on H1B or F1, he or she has a right to get a GC. GC or citizenship is a privilege, we cant demand it or force someone to give it to us. Its a simple demand and supply situation, there are more visa seekers then there is availability and therefore there is a waiting period. i am not sure why we don't accept the simple fact that there are way too many people from developing country like ours moving to US, and not everyone can be accommodated ASAP. i think US has every right to do what it thinks is best for her, even if we don't agree with that,
And those who say its discrimination, discrimination is when people from Bihar are beaten up on the streets of mumbai cause they are taking jobs away from marathi manus. Had there been so many techies from around the world taking up jobs in India, we would have seen street lynching.
People don't come here to work for someone else. They come to work for themselves (and eventually) hire Americans. If USCIS released their internal data as they've been asked and the numbers show that you've got to wait two decades for a green card, that is tantamount to them hanging a sign saying: "We don't serve Indians; We don't serve Chinese." They might as well just close and wind down operations.
People come for economic opportunity, and economic opportunity when you work for someone else is limited. Certainly less than in Canada, India and China when you work for yourself. People bring their creativity and ideas and hard work and the US benefits immensely from this skilled labour pool. They've also come because USCIS has put the foot ball in front of them, only to pull it back after we're years into the process.
A sign saying "We don't serve Indians or Chinese" *is* discrimination. But I would also use the word "fraud" for that is what it is: We paid for an advertised service. We spent years waiting for that service. We did not get that service. Pretty simple.
where does it say if on is on H1B or F1, he or she has a right to get a GC. GC or citizenship is a privilege, we cant demand it or force someone to give it to us. Its a simple demand and supply situation, there are more visa seekers then there is availability and therefore there is a waiting period. i am not sure why we don't accept the simple fact that there are way too many people from developing country like ours moving to US, and not everyone can be accommodated ASAP. i think US has every right to do what it thinks is best for her, even if we don't agree with that,
And those who say its discrimination, discrimination is when people from Bihar are beaten up on the streets of mumbai cause they are taking jobs away from marathi manus. Had there been so many techies from around the world taking up jobs in India, we would have seen street lynching.
People don't come here to work for someone else. They come to work for themselves (and eventually) hire Americans. If USCIS released their internal data as they've been asked and the numbers show that you've got to wait two decades for a green card, that is tantamount to them hanging a sign saying: "We don't serve Indians; We don't serve Chinese." They might as well just close and wind down operations.
People come for economic opportunity, and economic opportunity when you work for someone else is limited. Certainly less than in Canada, India and China when you work for yourself. People bring their creativity and ideas and hard work and the US benefits immensely from this skilled labour pool. They've also come because USCIS has put the foot ball in front of them, only to pull it back after we're years into the process.
A sign saying "We don't serve Indians or Chinese" *is* discrimination. But I would also use the word "fraud" for that is what it is: We paid for an advertised service. We spent years waiting for that service. We did not get that service. Pretty simple.
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abracadabra102
09-14 01:22 PM
Please stop this EB3 vs EB2 nonsense :mad:. Let us work on something all of us can agree on a) VISA recapture b) STEM exemption c) Streamlining of USCIS processing etc. Let us not open the old wounds again. We are becoming a laughing stock with this constant bickering.
senthil1
10-03 04:40 PM
Increasing green card numbers will resolve this problem also. For example doubling the Visa numbers will not have much impact when CIS wastes a few hundred or a few thousand Visa numbers. If Annual cap is 300k then also CIS may waste 5k Visa numbers every year on average. But without increasing gc numbers even full utilization of 140k Visa will not have any impact Indian PD as demand is high.
Last year they "wasted" about 10K visa numbers. It is absolutely up to them. However congress has authorized 140k a year and there are huge backlogs for AOS and CP. So when you put that together, leaving about 10K unapproved is clearly not enforcing congressional mandates. The ombudsman blasted them for this in his report, then we had the VB fiasco. None of this sounds like great management of the benefits. There clearly is room for improvement.
We (us and our employers) as the recipients of the benefits are complaining about this, and it is perfectly legitimate.
If any visa numbers are left unused, I definitely think we ought to take up this issue with congressional leaders like Zoe Lofgren. Even just a visa recapture legislation alone would help us tremendously until 2009(about the earliest they might get back to this issue more fully).
Last year they "wasted" about 10K visa numbers. It is absolutely up to them. However congress has authorized 140k a year and there are huge backlogs for AOS and CP. So when you put that together, leaving about 10K unapproved is clearly not enforcing congressional mandates. The ombudsman blasted them for this in his report, then we had the VB fiasco. None of this sounds like great management of the benefits. There clearly is room for improvement.
We (us and our employers) as the recipients of the benefits are complaining about this, and it is perfectly legitimate.
If any visa numbers are left unused, I definitely think we ought to take up this issue with congressional leaders like Zoe Lofgren. Even just a visa recapture legislation alone would help us tremendously until 2009(about the earliest they might get back to this issue more fully).
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Libra
09-11 10:43 PM
thank you GTGC and vunlucky for contributions.
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punjabi
09-10 08:42 PM
Guys,
Keep the cool. USCIS is very unpredictable as we all have seen. Get ready to see the dates move forward pretty quickly this year! There are more chances to have increased visa numbers and things can only go UP from here on.
Watch the documentray "The Secret" and put your positive thoughts out there...
Keep the cool. USCIS is very unpredictable as we all have seen. Get ready to see the dates move forward pretty quickly this year! There are more chances to have increased visa numbers and things can only go UP from here on.
Watch the documentray "The Secret" and put your positive thoughts out there...
vandanaverdia
09-12 02:00 PM
Thank you rangaswamy. We need more members to come forward & be first time contributors!!
We have lots to achieve & very few days left...
Support IV....
Help IV help you!!!
We have lots to achieve & very few days left...
Support IV....
Help IV help you!!!
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conchshell
06-10 03:54 PM
We are in a lot better shape than we were sometime back.
I totally agree ... just look one year back ... today most of us are enjoying EAD/AP, and security net of AC21. Compare this with the situation we had on just H1B.
I totally agree ... just look one year back ... today most of us are enjoying EAD/AP, and security net of AC21. Compare this with the situation we had on just H1B.
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mpadapa
06-11 12:04 PM
This retrogression and slow forward movement was a problem in the making. Last summer IV core had warned about this issue. The writing on this issue was on the wall, now we have numbers to prove it. Last year (2008) we ducked the issue because EB folks got lucky since almost 23K visa wasted by FB folks in 2007 was counted as part of EB limit in 2008. This year no such luck, we are stuck with our usual quota's. Refresh your memory with an old thread from last summer. (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=19042)
Folks don't narrow this issue to an Indian/chinese issue. All EB3 folks and EB2 (reto countries) are affected by the retrogression. When the system is broken blame the system and not the individual department. Looks like members like to take a dig at USCIS for every problem in the system. Go talk to your lawmakers if you have issues with the system, they are the one who drafted the limits. Your labor was delayed not because of USCIS but by DOL. Yes USCIS is not a perfect org but they do their best. USCIS wasn't equipped to handle millions of EAD/AP every year aren't they issuing they issuing it within reasonable time. Give some respect to the org and just don't use it as a punch bag for all your problems. If you have issues with wastage of visa's go ask the lawmakers who introduced the 245i provision in 2000. They showed the EB folks with ~130K recapture and flooded the system with 245i applicants and caused ~130K visa numbers wasted between 2000-present. What was the net gain? We should collective organize and do active lobbying with IV, otherwise we will be taken for another ride in CIR.
Source:
http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/general-immigration-questions/8261-visa-number-update-from-the-department-of-state.html
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Folks don't narrow this issue to an Indian/chinese issue. All EB3 folks and EB2 (reto countries) are affected by the retrogression. When the system is broken blame the system and not the individual department. Looks like members like to take a dig at USCIS for every problem in the system. Go talk to your lawmakers if you have issues with the system, they are the one who drafted the limits. Your labor was delayed not because of USCIS but by DOL. Yes USCIS is not a perfect org but they do their best. USCIS wasn't equipped to handle millions of EAD/AP every year aren't they issuing they issuing it within reasonable time. Give some respect to the org and just don't use it as a punch bag for all your problems. If you have issues with wastage of visa's go ask the lawmakers who introduced the 245i provision in 2000. They showed the EB folks with ~130K recapture and flooded the system with 245i applicants and caused ~130K visa numbers wasted between 2000-present. What was the net gain? We should collective organize and do active lobbying with IV, otherwise we will be taken for another ride in CIR.
Source:
http://www.immigration-information.com/forums/general-immigration-questions/8261-visa-number-update-from-the-department-of-state.html
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desi3933
09-15 11:49 AM
Mujhe to aam kahne se matlab hai... (As long as the visas are available, I don't care):D
I am with you and willing to share the cost.
Good Luck.
Abhi to saare aam khatam ho gaye hai.
(Translation - Right now all the visa numbers are gone for your PD).
I am with you and willing to share the cost.
Good Luck.
Abhi to saare aam khatam ho gaye hai.
(Translation - Right now all the visa numbers are gone for your PD).
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06-21 12:50 PM
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sagis99
08-08 11:56 AM
I contacted my local HR dept, and asked for their support, but i'm not sure what will come out of it. if they agree, i'll file the form next week.
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skv
06-18 11:17 AM
I am praying what u say is right!1111
Hope and wish your prayers will be answered. After we have waited long enough to have luck on our side this time !!! :-)
Hope and wish your prayers will be answered. After we have waited long enough to have luck on our side this time !!! :-)
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LegallyGC
08-12 01:09 PM
I dont think this will change anything ...
1. Infy/TCs and all biggies will shift more jobs to India and other contries or hire people on contract from smaller desi consultants who have less than 50 guys.
2. Desi consulting companies here with more than 50 employees will split them selves into 2 or 3 companies of less than 50 employees and avoid the 2000$ extra fee...
3. 600M will never to till the border and those illegals keep coming.
4. Indian americans leaders (if they read the news about this law) will curse saying "how bad things are now compared to how it was when they came here" and then keep voting democrats....
5. We as immigrant community will talk a lot about this in our forums and curse Senators, Democrats, infy and many others till next month's VISA bulletin and then forget this ever hapened.
6. This thread will have a lot of posts and then slowly phase out...
Unless we decide to educate senators, congressmen, indian americans what are the side affects of this....
1. Infy/TCs and all biggies will shift more jobs to India and other contries or hire people on contract from smaller desi consultants who have less than 50 guys.
2. Desi consulting companies here with more than 50 employees will split them selves into 2 or 3 companies of less than 50 employees and avoid the 2000$ extra fee...
3. 600M will never to till the border and those illegals keep coming.
4. Indian americans leaders (if they read the news about this law) will curse saying "how bad things are now compared to how it was when they came here" and then keep voting democrats....
5. We as immigrant community will talk a lot about this in our forums and curse Senators, Democrats, infy and many others till next month's VISA bulletin and then forget this ever hapened.
6. This thread will have a lot of posts and then slowly phase out...
Unless we decide to educate senators, congressmen, indian americans what are the side affects of this....
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h1techSlave
10-01 01:42 PM
IV is looking in the right direction in the long term.
IV, sure is looking at a long term solution. I did not criticize that strategy. IV should continue to work for a permanent fix.
Currently for IV, this long term fix is the #1 priority. I was suggesting that IV should make the long term fix a #2 priority. And make #1 priority as improving efficiency at USCIS.
IV, sure is looking at a long term solution. I did not criticize that strategy. IV should continue to work for a permanent fix.
Currently for IV, this long term fix is the #1 priority. I was suggesting that IV should make the long term fix a #2 priority. And make #1 priority as improving efficiency at USCIS.
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04-11 03:15 PM
Labor approved last week.
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eb3_2004
03-11 10:07 AM
Hi Channj,
I am facing issues with re-financing with EAD thru Suntrust...Is there a way I can quote u to make the underwriter understand my EAD status....
I am facing issues with re-financing with EAD thru Suntrust...Is there a way I can quote u to make the underwriter understand my EAD status....
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Green.Tech
06-04 11:51 PM
Folks, the bills are going to be taken to the next level soon...We don't have much time....Please contribute financially for this cause so we can all get GC's sooner than later...
Who knows when our next opportunity will come!
Who knows when our next opportunity will come!
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gc_kaavaali
06-24 12:18 PM
I have been living in US for 5 years. I came on H1B and applied for labor in NJ in 2003. Spent $1000 for labor. Later i had to change employers because of employer problems. Then i applied my labor with new employer in 2005 march. i worked with this guy around 4 years. Applied 485 in july. I took permanent position on EAD. Here are the problems if they don't give me GC:
1) Problem is i am stuck at Senior Software Engineer. I cannot take lead position because of pending 485 application. So that means person who doesn't know anything about our application will lead us. From organization point of view that person is waste. It is really waste of money. See how many people are in this situation and see how much money this country is losing.
2) Because of excess use of human resources in particular organization It also leads scarcity of human resources.
3) My company will pay for my EAD and AP cost. It is waste of money.
4) I may not want to go to India because i may scared if USCIS send any details when i am in india. That means i don't use my vacation. I will try to get money instead of vacation. This is also loss for an organization. Not much spending on tourism.
5) Suppose if i am on H1B, my employer has to bear cost. It is waste of money. I know for USCIS it might revenue but they also incur additional cost to adjudicate my H1B petition.
No doubt being in america i have better life. But US also gaining so much out of us.
1) Problem is i am stuck at Senior Software Engineer. I cannot take lead position because of pending 485 application. So that means person who doesn't know anything about our application will lead us. From organization point of view that person is waste. It is really waste of money. See how many people are in this situation and see how much money this country is losing.
2) Because of excess use of human resources in particular organization It also leads scarcity of human resources.
3) My company will pay for my EAD and AP cost. It is waste of money.
4) I may not want to go to India because i may scared if USCIS send any details when i am in india. That means i don't use my vacation. I will try to get money instead of vacation. This is also loss for an organization. Not much spending on tourism.
5) Suppose if i am on H1B, my employer has to bear cost. It is waste of money. I know for USCIS it might revenue but they also incur additional cost to adjudicate my H1B petition.
No doubt being in america i have better life. But US also gaining so much out of us.
vine93
05-01 03:33 PM
1. Another reply was If we use All permitted unsed visa, Where would we be in terms of EB visa. His response was Probably china/India Second category will be clear.
2. According to Him 65% of visa has been used for this year. less amount of visa remain now for this year. We shouldn't expect miracle for this year at least.
3. Let Join hands together and follow the HSMP people did in UK.
2. According to Him 65% of visa has been used for this year. less amount of visa remain now for this year. We shouldn't expect miracle for this year at least.
3. Let Join hands together and follow the HSMP people did in UK.
JazzByTheBay
09-29 08:01 AM
2009 is VERY OPTIMISTIC. Why would a new administration take up "touchy" issue like immigration in its 1st year (2009)? Least we can expect is 2010 IF NOTHING HAPPENS BY MID NOVEMBER - Congress goes to recess for the year.The window of opportunity is short!
Hahaha! It sounds that you're really mad though! I am optimistic that I'll get my GC next year! No need to wait for 2009!
Unusual and unjustified optimism is the hallmark of great leaders and delusional fools. :)
Don't want to get political on this forum, but you probably know the consequences in the context of the current state of world affairs.
hypophobia: While many people today are plagued with excessive fear and anxiety it seems that there are others who have too little anxiety, a condition which has been termed "hypophobia" (1, 2 (http://www.chester.ac.uk/%7Esjlewis/DM/TEXTS/TEXT2.HTM), 3 (http://www-personal.umich.edu/%7Enesse/Articles/TestEvolHypsMentDisord-1999.PDF), 4 (http://clawww.lmu.edu/faculty/tshanahan/DarMed.html), 8 (http://psych.unn.ac.uk/pdf/beh_res_prep/br_poulton.pdf)). Since anxiety is a defensive or adaptive emotion which serves to protect us from dangers (see Darwinian Medicine (http://www.holistichealthtopics.com/HMG/adapt.html)), those who lack such normal fears may fail to perceive the dangers which confront them everyday. Such people may be seen as foolhardy or risk takers since they lack the normal inhibitory fears which serve to prevent excessive risk taking. It is for this reason that the frequently unrecognised hypophobia may be a rather dangerous condition. As has been noted by Nesse (5 (http://www-personal.umich.edu/%7Enesse/Articles/WhatDarMedOffersPsychiatry-1999.pdf)), "too little anxiety may be worse than too much."
http://www.holistichealthtopics.com/HMG/anxiety.html
jazz
Hahaha! It sounds that you're really mad though! I am optimistic that I'll get my GC next year! No need to wait for 2009!
Unusual and unjustified optimism is the hallmark of great leaders and delusional fools. :)
Don't want to get political on this forum, but you probably know the consequences in the context of the current state of world affairs.
hypophobia: While many people today are plagued with excessive fear and anxiety it seems that there are others who have too little anxiety, a condition which has been termed "hypophobia" (1, 2 (http://www.chester.ac.uk/%7Esjlewis/DM/TEXTS/TEXT2.HTM), 3 (http://www-personal.umich.edu/%7Enesse/Articles/TestEvolHypsMentDisord-1999.PDF), 4 (http://clawww.lmu.edu/faculty/tshanahan/DarMed.html), 8 (http://psych.unn.ac.uk/pdf/beh_res_prep/br_poulton.pdf)). Since anxiety is a defensive or adaptive emotion which serves to protect us from dangers (see Darwinian Medicine (http://www.holistichealthtopics.com/HMG/adapt.html)), those who lack such normal fears may fail to perceive the dangers which confront them everyday. Such people may be seen as foolhardy or risk takers since they lack the normal inhibitory fears which serve to prevent excessive risk taking. It is for this reason that the frequently unrecognised hypophobia may be a rather dangerous condition. As has been noted by Nesse (5 (http://www-personal.umich.edu/%7Enesse/Articles/WhatDarMedOffersPsychiatry-1999.pdf)), "too little anxiety may be worse than too much."
http://www.holistichealthtopics.com/HMG/anxiety.html
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